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Undiscovered Events, Flickr Integration, and More

Yeah, we've been busy. What's new? Undiscovered events, Flickr photos for events, buddy icons, new event pages, and more than we can remember.

Undiscovered Events



Since we launched almost three years ago, you crazy kids have added over 100,000 events to Upcoming, making it the biggest and best social events community online. But creating events takes dedication and time, and we've wanted to make it easier ever since we came to Yahoo.

Today, we're very happy to announce a new section called Undiscovered Events. Unlike all the active events on Upcoming, this is a very deep well of events that Upcoming members haven't added yet, collected from around the web and updated daily by our friends over at Yahoo! Local. To put this in perspective, we increased the number of upcoming events by 3000% overnight. That's a little crazy.

This should help kick-start metros that haven't gotten off the ground, while making it easier to quickly find and add a wider range of events to Upcoming. It also gets around some of the dirty work of adding common events... Find and attend an undiscovered event and it's promoted to Active Events, where it can be discussed and shared forever.

And because we're way more comprehensive, this is well suited for tracking nationwide tours too. For example, tour dates for Def Leppard and Journey. Needless to say, this wasn't a concert tour that was very well represented on Upcoming before. Rock!

A huge thanks to everyone on the Yahoo! Local team that helped push these changes, but especially Ronnie, Peng, Don, Ganesh, Jian, and Van.

Event Filters



More events means we need better ways to browse them, so we've redesigned the metro listings and search results again, this time with event filters. On any list of events, you can now filter by metros, by category, or by date.

These filters carry over to the Export options, so you can easily set up an RSS feed or iCal calendar of all the music events happening near you this weekend, for example.

Flickr Photos for Events



Flickr and Upcoming taste great together! After many requests, we finally have photos for events! Tag your Flickr photos with the special Upcoming tag on every event page, and they'll automatically show up on Upcoming (example). (We have some neat ideas how to use these photos, once it gets more popular. Stay tuned.)

Also, Flickr will automatically add a link back to the Upcoming event from each of your tagged Flickr photos. Big thanks to Kellan and George on the Flickr team for pulling it off.

Buddy Icons



We now have avatars popping up throughout the site and if you're a Flickr user, setting your Upcoming buddy icon takes about five seconds. Just use the Change Buddy Icon page, put in your Flickr email address username and you're pretty much done. If you don't have a Flickr account, you should sign up. They're doing really great work, and they're also announcing some huge new features today.

New Event Pages



The old event pages were getting pretty stale, so we decided to take this opportunity to do a redesign (for example). A cleaner design with inline maps, other events at the same venue, live editing of tags/groups, buddy icons, Flickr photos, and a better toolbar.

New User Experience



For people coming to Upcoming for the first time, the homepage is ridiculously better. We take a best guess at your closest metro near you and show the most popular events in your area, with easy options to change your location. If they sign up, these locations carry over and they're automagically added to the metros. If you're signed in, try signing out and giving it a try.

100,000 Events!



Like I mentioned, one week ago, squarewithin added the 100,000th event to Upcoming, a Vancouver DJ show called Body Rock. A huge thank you to squarewithin, and every one of you that's made Upcoming so much more than a big list of events. Any bets on how long it takes to hit event #200,000?

What do you think?



We'd love to hear what you think... We've spent a lot of time on this, so are very interested in what you love and hate. Also, if you find bugs, please leave a comment so we can take care of it.

Comments
hawt.
Posted 1 year ago
Hey, and our servers are still up!
Posted 1 year ago
It's toit like a toiger.
Posted 1 year ago
freakin' awesome! the redesign of the event page is grand!
Posted 1 year ago
Best. Upcoming. Evar.
Posted 1 year ago
Very nice. Good work.
Posted 1 year ago
Great stuff, guys. I'm still exploring, and loving the new layouts. Looking forward to exploring the Flickr integration, too.
Posted 1 year ago
Example of Flickr integration with a music event:
http://upcoming.org/event/96904/
Posted 1 year ago
Ausome-o.
Posted 1 year ago
the flickr photos are hot though im not sure how much u look at an event page after it passed.. u know it woulda been awesome if flickr geotagged those pics picking up address from upcoming

love the new single event page (and buddy icons!!)
Posted 1 year ago
Magic eightball says more Flickr integration is likely. :)
Posted 1 year ago
I rec'd an entertaining email from the robot just now: http://www.flickr.com/photos/courtneypix/227542799/
Posted 1 year ago
Yeah, that was funny... Gordon fixed it a little earlier today. It was broken for about 30 minutes from the time we took the changes live.
Posted 1 year ago
Amazing! Great work guys.
Posted 1 year ago
Hmm. I don't like it. Yet.

I'll give it time though, but I find the information is a bit too hard to scan -- i.e. who's coming and so forth.

Maybe you need to add some more line-height or something.

And hurry up with Upcoming-Flickr AUTH (or OpenID). That'd be nice.
Posted 1 year ago
One thing that a couple of folks seem not to spot is the "Switch to collapsed events listings" link in the upper right corner of the Metro and Search views. It's our experiment with creating a more table-like view. It should let you see more events on a single page, and you can click on any row in order to expand it and see all the juicy details.

It sticks with you, so that you can just pick the view you prefer for browsing that kind of view on the site. Give it a shot and see if that helps the scan-ability of the new views.
Posted 1 year ago
Not before time, but the changes you've made are far beyond my expectations. Now can we have one more thing .. a way of blocking OUT Journey/Def Leppard gigs??
Posted 1 year ago
chris: there's still a lot of white-space issues that some padding and line-height tweaks will help smooth over.

Hey, aren't you supposed to be at Burning Man? :)
Posted 1 year ago
Whoa. Good job guys!

Though, I'm now even more scared by the ease of which one can now discover drunken photos of Web 2.0 evangelists :)
Posted 1 year ago
I really like that the Undiscovered events are segragated from the user-submitted events, in both the regular listings and search results. That's an excellent balance for adding tons of events without diluting the user contribution that has always made Upcoming rock.
Posted 1 year ago
Well, I like it Leonard...although nobody is telling me what the 'standard' for tagging Flickr photos with Upcoming events is.

Is there an automagic way to do this? Maybe a little link with a pop up or it publishes on the page, saying, "Taking photos of the event? Tag them with upcoming:blah:blah"? Or am I missing something and just overlooked it?
Posted 1 year ago
In general, great job. The new features are terrific. I am REALLY excited about the 'undiscovered events.' But I have to agree with Chris -- the new event page is not working for me. See my post here: http://www.jnolen.org/blog/2006/08/new_upcoming_fe.html
Posted 1 year ago
msrogue: Click the "Add photos" link on any event page under the "Photos" title to get the unique Flickr tag. I'll have to make that more obvious somehow.

jnolen: Now THAT'S some seriously constructive feedback. Your mockup is a clear improvement in several key areas, and I'll make some changes first thing tomorrow based on it.
Posted 1 year ago
Ooh ooh, I didn't get a chance to do my pass. I wanna play! Here's my riff off of Jonathan's pass:

http://randomfoo.net/junk/200608/new.gif

* Totally agree about header color
* I did a rearrangement of what makes sense to me. Although the related events/events at the same venue has gotten lost. Still thinking on that...

I think that you've seen what's driving things like the somewhat questionable attendance list is that we don't want to unevenly eat into the event description area, since it'd wreak havoc w/ descriptions w/ photos, etc.
Posted 1 year ago
What, no RSS feed? How can I keep up with the latest/greatest news? I discovered the new upcoming updates through the Flickr blog. Help us out! Other than that... keep up the good work!
Posted 1 year ago
Some great stuff. The Flickr integration is definitely a useful direction.

One bug, though: Canadian locations don't seem to be getting the maps. (E.g., http://upcoming.org/event/98850 )
Posted 1 year ago
mojodenbow: http://upcoming.org/news/index.xml

Grant: we'll take a look. It's probably a geocoding issue.
Posted 1 year ago
I'm a dork.. I found the feed before you posted and came back to tell you so. Thanks for the link too. Humple apologies!
Posted 1 year ago
don't know what else i can say than "absolutely f**kin' brilliant"!!!
for my personal purpose the title of the events is a little short. sorry - found absolutely nothing else to complain about... close to perfect!!!
Posted 1 year ago
one suggestion: as i said - i simply love everything. maybe it's some good idea to add the flicker tags to the venues as well. i generally take pics of the venue if i attend an event. could be useful if you're searching for smaller locations or wanting to get the "big picture".
Posted 1 year ago
For importing my buddy icon, it didn't work with my Flickr username ("msittig"), but it did work when I typed in my Flickr *screen name* ("Micah Sittig").
Posted 1 year ago
mojodenbow: No worries. We should probably put a link on every newspage anyway, maybe put it in the head for autodiscovery as well...

energylab: Hooray! We've been pushing tons of tweaks of things that we didn't get to our yesterday. This release had a lot of dependencies/coordination, but we should be back to more frequent incremental stuff and will post a summary of updates soon.

msittig: we're looking into tweaking this to your Flickr email address I think, since there's been some confusion on what people's unique id's are...
Posted 1 year ago
First impressions are that I'm loving it. I think I've tempted at least two work collegues to sign up after they've seen the latest updates.

Also, I think this flickr integration will get me using my flickr account again. I'm currently a paid subscriber - but use Opera Community. They send me free stuff for using their website. :D

Edit: Mmm, Munkyfest has been flickrized.

And flickr has been upcoming'ed:


Posted 1 year ago
I really like the new features - the chunky overview numbers, the flickr stuff... it's all lovely. Being able to quickly add into my gCal is most appreciated also.

The one thing I'd change though is to make the who's attending/watching full lists again. I liked being able to see at a glance how many people were coming/any names I knew. I chatted with some people on freenode about it, and there seemed to be some agreement. Perhaps make it a customisable setting (full or short listing)?
Posted 1 year ago
I love the Flickr integration, but how can you associate photos for an event that has not yet happened? Time travel?
Posted 1 year ago
Looking forward to the Flickr integration...

Not sure about the Undiscovered thing tho - in my Metro (Bristol UK) all the Undiscovered events are in Bristol USA.
Posted 1 year ago
msephton: but how can you associate photos for an event that has not yet happened?

The question here is surely 'how can you take photos at an event that's not yet happened?'

Maybe you're looking for a space to upload a flyer?
Posted 1 year ago
We've changed over to Flickr email addresses for setting up your buddyicons. If you've been having any problems, go ahead and try that out!

pleman: Unfortunately, Yahoo! Local doesn't have non-NA coverage (yet), so you might have to wait a bit for us to get some Undiscovered love for the UK.
Posted 1 year ago
Great stuff - I really like the Undiscovered events. Here are a couple ideas that I think could make it better:

o Event merge - many Undiscovered events are duplicated (your sample link currently has the following undiscovered events 60344009 and 60520115, which are the same event - oops). Also, many Undiscovered events already have been discovered (60578209 is 97913).

o Better location search - a number of Undiscovered events for arts events - I may not care about one particular show but it would be slick if I could click the location for an event I don't care about and see what else is coming up there.
Posted 1 year ago
getlucky: thanks, I can wait...
But I was also wondering - where do you get the data for Undiscovered? Are there any plans to harvest microformatted events from somewhere like http://pingerati.net/ ?
Posted 1 year ago
Oh, sorry, just read the blog properly ;)
(the question still stands tho...)
Posted 1 year ago
Can I ask why the venue phone number is not visible when you click on an event? It's still the main thing people want, so they can call and book a ticket, and also, enabling a weblink for the venue in the listing would be great.

Edit: I've just discovered that there doesn't seem to be any way at all to see the venue phone number (unless I'm missing something here), come on guys, wake up at the back.

ta muchly

;o)

nb: Safari 2 on Tiger 10.4.7
Posted 1 year ago
One extra thing;

If you accidentally send an event to the wrong group (it's a dropdown with no double-check) there doesn't seem to be a way to take it away from that group again (like you can with tags).
Posted 1 year ago
PeruTheDamaja: we have event merging right now that we use administratively, but there are some dependencies before we can roll it out as a community feature. It's definitely high on our list, especially now that we have all these extra events.

As far as better location search - we hear you and we have plans for better geo-exploration!

pieman: we can't say on what our plans are, but obviously it would make sense. ;)

Article19: Most of our venue data started out as being user entered and haven't been matched/augment, this is an additional data project that we've been working on.

fberriman: good call, adding it to our task list.
Posted 1 year ago
Thank you :)
Posted 1 year ago
The world is just a little bit better now. ;o)
Posted 1 year ago
Hello. Me again.

I've noticed a little bug. At least, I assume this is.

For example - on an event of mine (http://upcoming.org/event/100107/) It states 8 attending, but only 7 people (including myself) are listed in the attending list beside. Now, is it conincidence that those 7 people happen to be on my friends list, and the 8th isn't? There's no option to show the 8th person although they exist and are actually marked and attending.
Posted 1 year ago
Hmm, I'm counting 8 people and see 8 names. Maybe it was hiccup? It shouldn't matter if they're friends or not (except that they should show up first and bolded).
Posted 1 year ago
Nope - definitely 7! I can grab you a screenshot if you like.

Infact; http://fberriman.com/ueight.jpg
Posted 1 year ago
I wish the RSS feeds were in event-start chronological event order and not "most recently added first" order
Posted 1 year ago
I dunno if anyone else mentioned this yet, but there appears to be a *tiny* little bug in the "Undiscovered Events" listing. I'm looking at Houston's undiscovered events, and the dates are all one day out of sync. Like, from the list, it will say Saturday, Sept whatnot, and then when you click the event you see that it's actually on SUNDAY, September whatnot + 1.
Posted 1 year ago
Great news! I just found this site while looking for a calendar of events tool for a community site we're building for Carver County, MN (LivingInCarverCounty).

I'd used the Yahoo map service with raving success. This is another great tool. No reason to build your own application. Just hook into the strong foundation you've created.

Saved me about 2 days of work, and it will be a big hit with the residents of Carver County (a bedroom community of Minneapolis).
Posted 1 year ago
stjnky: oops, i'll take a look at that tomorrow. was out sick today.
Posted 1 year ago
Along similar lines to the people-count bug:
The following event is listed as having 3 comments on my upcoming events list, yet only actually has 2. I edited my own comment after posting so I assume that's when things went wrong.
http://upcoming.org/event/64541/
Posted 1 year ago
Here's something interesting. On China-based event site 8sheng, somebody put up TV listings for channel CCTV2, and movie times for certain movie theaters. Not what the site was originally intended for, but an idea with potential.
Posted 1 year ago
mark: sometimes the counts get off because of how we cache the stuff for views, but it usually gets updated pretty quickly (or barring that, the next time the event gets modified in any way).

msittig: we've been talking about that sort of stuff recently but it's a little lower on our priority list. BTW, I also caught your blog post a couple weeks back - we'll be addressing some of the url issues in the future (although not some others).
Posted 1 year ago
Hey stjnky: Thanks for the bug report, I think I managed to fix the root cause.
Posted 1 year ago
Getluky: Yep! Looks like ya got it. Thanks!
Posted 1 year ago
Yay :)
Posted 1 year ago
i want this name in chat lmao
Posted 1 year ago
I would also suggest upcoming.org and Flickr.com add functionality to review the various perspectives of a venue using a similar tagging mechanism. For example:
Upcoming:event=143602
Upcoming:venue=45629
Event:Section=143
Event:Row=18
Event:Seat=17

This could give users a perspective on just what a particular section looks like.
Posted 1 year ago
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